	Weekly Chat Meeting # 61: Thursday 30th May 2002
	
Participants: Niels Joergen Westergaard, Carol Anne Oxborrow, Stefan Larsson,
	Sami Maisala, Silvia Martinez-Nunez
	
Subjects discussed: SDAST Meeting at ISDC June 4th 2002

Action Items: None

**** Logging Started : Thu May 30 10:02:54 MEST 2002
> Hi Sami. ready to chat? END
<smaisala> Hello. I'm ready. END
> NJW and Silvia should be with us soon. Peter's on holiday and I haven't heard
> from Stefan. END
<smaisala> I think we should wait for a while... END
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<silvia> Good morning !!
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<njw> Hello, sorry I'm late END
> Hello everyone! Does anyone know if Stefan's joining us today? END
<njw> N
> I'll give him a ring. END
> Stefan isn't  in his office apparently, so I think we should start now.
> Only one real agenda item: what to discuss at the next meeting? I would
> suggest at the very least a quick run through of the following:
> AI list
> Instrument group status
> V1 status: outstanding SPRs SCREWs
> V2 status: outstanding...etc.
> Writing extended logarithm descriptions for Masha: what and when
> V3: when?
> Okay, I've run dry - other suggestions? END
<njw> You have put it in very broad terms. Since Sami won't be there to
<njw> discuss the background issue we might concentrate on Stefans spectrum
<njw> and lightcurve extraction. How is XSPEC working with these products?
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<njw> How is Stefan's own software for timing analysis work with the products?
<larsson> Hi. Sory to be late. END
<njw> Hello Stefan, welcome, I was just proposing that you'll make a presentation
> Hi Stefan, good to have you with us! ENd
<njw> of present results with spectrum and light curve extraction END
<larsson> OK. END
<njw> Perhaps it would also be a good idea if you gave us a short run-down of
<njw> your timing analysis software (?) END
<larsson> Yes. I can do that. END
<njw> I have been involved in a discussion of units of the derived source fluxes.
<njw> I'd like to present that to SDAST as well. END
> What about SV results to be presented by NJW, Peter and Stefan? I'd like to
> know what was actually concluded from that exercise. Also, how far's the
> SVR come along?
<larsson> I can present what I have done on the SV. END
<njw> I'm afraid not much further than what was presented at the last SDAST meeting.
<njw> But I might have some news on the IROS process. END
> Okay, any more ideas? Silvia, have you got anything to present on IBAS? END
<silvia> No yet ! I'll work with Jerzy the next and the following week ! END
> What can you contribute over the phone do you think Stefan? END
<silvia> Niels has just passes a preminilary version that contains a decode program and a trigger program but its a very premilinary version ! END
<larsson> me phone?? END
> Sorry, I meant Sami - he'll probably only be joining us by phone. How about it
<larsson> OK. END
> Sami, what will you contribute? END
> How about you presenting something on scripts Silvia? END
<silvia> I'd discuss that with PK ! 
<silvia> PK and I have made some changes (some SPR and some SCREWS) but the new version hasn't been delivered yet !
> In that case you can give us some details on  the changes! END
<silvia> I think so !
> Sami: to what extent will you participate if it's only going to be over the
> phone? All day, just for the things that really interest you, or just to make
<njw> There is also a possibility to send Peter an overhead or two END
> your own presentation(s)? END
> Yes, I'd like to make sure that the design of the interactive background
> handling really is finally nailed down. END
<smaisala> I think I will make some transparencies and I will send them to the Peter. END
> How much of the time shall we expect you to be present IRC'ing or by phone? END
<smaisala> One solution is to use this chat channel. END
> Will you be listening in by phone to the discussion, or will someone have to
> type everything (well almost) that gets said. I think I know which person
> that would have to be! END
<smaisala> I think you should type only the VERY important messages :-)
> And all the rest? How will you keep up with what's being said? END
<njw> Perhaps we could decide on a time of the day where we make a telephone
<njw> call to summarize the situation. END
> I think I prefer the IRC link idea rather than a quick phone summary - that
> hardly allows for real participation by Stefan, and we have to spend time
> summarizing what's already been discussed: we can just as easily send Sami an
<njw> You mean Sami ? END
> email afterwards, or he can read the minutess. Yes I mean Sami. END
> If he's going to use the phone it should be for long enough (e.g. several hours)
> that he can actually participate in discussions. Otherwise, I'd certainly
> willing to type to o IRC for him so that he can type his contributions back. END
<smaisala> If I remember correctly CAO always makes notes of everything. If CAO puts all these notes to the IRC channel I can follow the discussion.
<smaisala> If there is something I cannot comment by IRC I will call to you. END
> And I can log the IRC channel and use the log text to create the minutes. END
> Of course I'll read out anything that you type back (unless I disagree with it
<smaisala> Yes :-) END
> !!!) END
> Okay, so are we agreed that SM participates throughout the whole meeting by
> IRC only? If so, what time do we begin and what time do we end? END
<njw> 9 - 17 ? END
> Is that okay with everyone.
<silvia> Fine with me !
<silvia> END 
<smaisala> Yes. END
> Okay, I'll make up the agenda and circulate it today. END
> Any other business: Stefan (and I mean Stefan this time) are you staying for
> the SVT-F? END
<larsson> I am leaving 6th of June (lunch time I think). END
> Great so you'll be part of the festivities on the 5th - the more the merrier!
> END
> Are you all remembering to update the ADD when you make new deliveries? Please
> keep it updated so that it doesn't become a big job in a couple of months
<larsson> We remember that we should do it..... END
> when I make a new version. END
<silvia> I've to learnt to do that ( I think ...) END 
> Yes I know...... the road to hell is paved with good intentions. END
> I've just installed RP4.0 here at DSRI, are you also doing that at Helsinki
> and Stockholm? END
<silvia> It is working ? END
> yes it should be working - I'll send an email round telling you what changes
> to make in .cshrc to access it. END
<silvia> That's great ! congratulations !! END 
<larsson> I even have the RP4.0 on my laptop. END
> That's great - you can work on your components on the plane too! END
<larsson> Right! END
> Any more AOB? END
<njw> N
<larsson> N
<smaisala> N
<silvia> N 
<njw> Bye, see most of you in Versoix END
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<larsson> Bye
> Well, I'm looking forward to seeing you all at ISDC - have a good weekend! END
<silvia> Bye ! END !!
