
	Weekly Chat meeting #54: Thursday 22nd November 2001
	
Participants: Peter Kretschmar, Carol Anne Oxborrow, Steffan Larsson,
	Sami Maisala
	
Subjects Discussed: Separate delivery of large unit tests
	ADD updates for ADD 6.4
	IBAS work: Silvia
	ISDC consortium meeting
	RP3.0 data structure review (abandoned)
	Updating *.txt files as per Masha's lists
	Instrument status
	Science Verification: test cases and schedule
	Peter's scripts
	
Action Items:
AI221101_1 SM	26/11/01 Send CAO email as soon as he's delivered his ADD 
OPEN		updates



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> Hi Peter! END
<peter> Hi Carol Anne. I'm just responding to your mail on Diagnostic. END
> Still just us two then? END
<peter> Let's hope the attendance is better today than last week! END
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<peter> Next week, I'll be in Holland, so you might start chatting with yourself ... :-) END
<peter> OK, maybe not. Hi Stefan! END
<larsson> Hi !
> Hi Stefan, it's good to have you here, there's an AI for you I'd like 
> cleared up. END
<larsson> Shoot!
> Okay, Stefan:
> AI20.1	PK,SL	2/11/01 Redeliver all ISSW that needs to use the new spectral
OPEN		formats
CLOSED PK 31/10/01

<larsson> Done! END
> This one is already half-closed. Can we close it entirely now? Or what?
> END
<peter> Yes you can.
> Goodie! END
<peter> Stefan: there is one problem with your delivery:
<larsson> .......
<peter> The test data set is very large and I've been asked to ask you to deliver the test data set seperately.
<peter> But at the momemnt I am still awaiting conmfirmation of the procedure to follow for that, therefore you haven't heard from me yet.
<larsson> OK. Maybe I can cut it down in size instead. 
<peter> If I mange to get a procedure dsecribed, by tomorrow, could you make another delivery (same version actually) within next week? END
<larsson> Do you have an approx size limit? END
<peter> Few MBs. EMD
<larsson> OK I'll do one or the other. END
<peter> But our CVS manager hopes to cut down the total size of his CVS repository. END
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<peter> Good midday Sami ! END
> HI Sami, are you having technical problems? END
<smaisala> Good Day1 Soory I'm late. END
> Let's start on the agenda, I think actually that the first two points
<smaisala> 1=! and Soory=sorry. END
> can be skipped over because NJW isn't with us, and I haven't been
> in touch with NL about the monitoring parameters. So shall we start with
> ADD updates? Has everyone done them, and is everything in the CVS
> repository that we want for the interim ADD release. I'm hoping to get
> it out of the door tomorrow. END
<peter> I consider my part done END
> Stefan and Sami? END
<larsson> I have updated the ones in sl. END
<smaisala> I have updated most of stuff. There's only few diagrams I have to make. END
> When will you be ready Sami? END
<smaisala> It depends on HK parameters.  I have to make diagrams to jperformance and IBH. END 
<smaisala> I think they are ready tomorrow. END
> Okay, I'll wait till tomorrow afternoon to do the final checkout from
> the repository. END
> I've replaced the pseudo-code in the `processing' section of my V3
> components with diagrams, is this okay Peter? I just couldn't get it
> to work in lines of text, unless there were lots of `goto's. END
<peter> That's fine with me. END
> If that's all on the ADD let's move on to the AI list. I'll just
> briefly go over the ones that are due or overdue now. END
> AI19_7 	NL	Nov 2001 Explore running NL's GRB-finding code with Jurek's 
OPEN		event-triggering system - i.e. making a compatible component
		for ISDC system

> I think this one's should be moved to normal work - Silvia is working 
> on the JEM-X part of IBAS with Niels, so there's someone to do the
> `normal work' as well. END
> comments? END
> In this connection too, NL and possibly Silvia will be coming to
> the next ISDC meeting. END
> NL will also be discussing the `instrument representative' problem with
> Thierry. END
> Comments? END
> AI19_11	CAO	Nov 2001 Talk with IT about what derived HK parameters should
OPEN		be used for performance monitoring


> This one's sort of ongoing, and should be resolved by the end of the
> month. END
> Something for all of us here:
> AI010906_1 ALL	Nov 2001 Look through ALL data structure templates released
OPEN		with RP3.0 and see whether there are missing templates,
		changes, corrections or updates to the templates, or templates
		that should be removed. All requests for changes to be emailed
		to Marc Turler, PK and CAO. NJW's latest IC templates should
		also be looked through.

> Shall we assume that my review of the data structures with RP3.0 was
> enough to close this one. Is anyone out there REALLY going to look
> through them too? END
> Anyone? END
<peter> Probably not. END
> AI20.3	ALL	26/11/01 To update their help files (*.txt) for all future
OPEN		deliveries, as per Masha's list of homework distributed at
		meeting
		

> Has everyone done their homework for Masha? END
<smaisala> Y
> If Sami's done it, I'll assume everyone has, and close this one - just
<larsson> I could possibly do a little more. END
> make sure you've followed her requests for the next deliveries! END
> So you've done some Stefan - that's good enough for the time being. ENd
> Next is on myself and njw:
> AI20.5	CAO,NJW	Keep ISDC informed about all developments in the instrument
ONGOING		status saga

> So here's the latest developement: a very fine crack has been discovered
> in the microstrip plate for the flight spare. This will cause a delay
> of about 2 weeks in the FS production, though some of this could be
> made up by baking out over Christmas. While it isn't a huge problem
> there are some worries that this may be an inbuilt weakness of the
> design because this is the second plate to crack just where the plate
> is glued to it's titanium mounting ring, which suggests a systematic
> problem. However, at the moment we're just hoping that even if it
> is systematic we'll get lucky and get another uncracked plate to work
> with. FM2 is beginning calibration in Ferrara this week, hence NJW's
> absence. The plan at the moment is to swap FM1 for the Flight Spare
> sometime after payload calibration. Does that fill you in enough on
> that status Peter? END
<peter> Yes, thanks!
> This next one I despair over:
> AI20.15 CAO,NJW	End Oct 2001 Get together with NL and make a list of test cases
OPEN		that will be needed for SV tests. Result: informal document
		to be circulated in IT and ISDC
		

> I have sent NL and NJW a fairly detailed email with my ideas, which 
> were not particularly astophysicist-y, but just meant to get the
> discussion rolling. I've given them both hardcopies since then: still
> nothing. At this rate, it'll be my suggestions that get used because
> we have nothing else. I don't know what else to say. When's the
> deadline for this list of test cases peter? END
<peter> Well, it relives me a little, since I'm fighting hard to have all the redelivered ISSW running. At the moment I'm investigating a curious problem with my patched-together IC data. END
> Okay, if there's still time for a serious astrophysicist discussion
<peter> In theory, the deadline is now. In practice, two weeks before NL and others have time to come here (or work at DSRI) on the scientific validation. END
> I'll try and activate NL and NJW again, but both of them have quite
> a bit of travelling to do. I'll see what I can do. END
<peter> But if we do not get this done before Christmas, things will get even tighter! January and February look very crowded already. END
<peter> Maybe we can have a discussion at our Dec meeting at DSRI. END
> That's a good idea Peter. I'll put that on the agenda right now! END
> Finally:
> AI20.16 CAO	Nov 2001 Install RP, scripts, software etc. needed for SV tests
OPEN


> When will your scripts (the newest, fastest, sleekest ones) be ready
> Peter END
<peter> Good question. I still _hope_ tomorrow. Otherwise at the ISDC Consortium Meeting. END
> In that case I'll count on installing them in December some time. END
> Okay everyone, that's the AI list completed. Sami could you be sure
> to send me an email as soon as you've put all your updates in the CVS
> respository? I'll make that an AI on you. I'll be expecting an email
> tomorrow, or Monday at the absolute latest. END
<smaisala> Yes. Everything else but those diagrams are updated. You will have them tomorrow! END
> So, any other business? END
<peter> Not from me. END
> Stefan and Sami? You're always suspiciously quiet - is everything
> really going so well you don't need to say anything? END
<peter> There's a mother speaking :-) :-) :-) END
<larsson> nothing now. end (suspiusly quite) end
<smaisala> Absolutely
> Absolutely suspiciously quiet, or absolutely going well? END
<smaisala> absolutely going well of course. END
> That's great to hear - remember all of these transcripts are being
> saved for posterity - you're on record as saying everything's going
> well!
> If there's nothing more: have a good weekend everyone - we're going
> ice skating for the first time, so I might be rather bruised, if not
> actually in plaster when next we chat! END
<peter> Good luck! Remember your duties - you must keep anble to use a keyboard :-) END
<peter> Bye everyone. END
<smaisala> 'See you' Have a nice weekend. END
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> Good bye! END
