
	SDAST chat meeting #51: Thursday November 1st 2001

Participants: Sami Maisala, Carol Anne Oxborrow, Niels Joergen Westergaard,
	Peter Kretschmar and Stefan Larsson
	
Subjects discussed: AI list:
		ADD updates
		GTI/alert limits
		Performance parameters
		New IC table data templates
		Installing OSM
		Delivery of background model data
	ISSW deliveries for new Spectral formats
	RMF and ARF files
	Hardware status
	New time for chat meetings 10.30 Thursday mornings
	

Action Items: None


**** Logging Started : Thu Nov 01 09:29:12 MET 2001
<smaisala> Good morning! Good to see you too! END
> Still just us two??? Where are all the others? END
<smaisala> I really don't know. Maybe we should wait few minutes more? END
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<njw> Hi, sorry being late END
> I've just sent an email to peter, stefan and njw - let's see if that brings
> any reaction! END
<njw> Well, I managed to log on just before I received the email END
> Otherwise we'll start on the AI list: Peter sent me an email that he's done
> his ADD updates, which is very nice because 2-3 of the overview figures were
> his and were very out of date, so that will make the interim update look
> much better. Anyone else done some ADD updates? END
<njw> N
<smaisala> N
> Okay, let's start on the AI list. END
> I think the first 3 require more realistic due dates. There was one more in
> there, for NJW and NL about delivering a list of alert/GTI limits to ISDC
> and that has been done, at least in a preliminary form. What are realistic
> due dates for these three NJW? END
* njw End of November - would that be too late ? END
> Not from my side. If getting a list of operator-viewed parameters is similar
> to the alert/GTI limits, I could provide a preliminary list this week. I
> think we need to remind NL of these things. I'll put end November for the time
> being. END
> This next one needs some discussion with Sami - so it's just as well he's
> here:
> AI19_11	CAO	Oct 2001 Talk with IT about what derived HK parameters should
OPEN		be used for performance monitoring


> Basically, when do you need this Sami: and what sort of things have you in
> mind: you will after all be making the big performance/parameters table. END
> HELLO???? end
<smaisala> I think we should ask for IT what derived parameters they want. After I know exactly they needs I can try to find out what is possible to do. ENd
> Okay, I'll talk to NL and SL this week. END
> This is one for you two chaps:
> AI19_17 NJW	Dec 2001 Provide SM with diffuse sky maps from which to make
OPEN		diffuse background models



<njw> Still December END
> How's it going NJW? Is this ongoing? Is anything being done. Remember
> december is only 4 weeks away - the blink of an eye in this project! END
<njw> Nothing done yet but I'll try not to forget END
> PS: AI's CAN be done early if you want! END
> I think in addition to the templates sent out with RP3.0, we should all also
> take a look at your new IC templates NJW. END
<njw> Haven't heard from Marc yet END
> If you'd also send the templates email to Sami, NJW, then all of us could 
> look through these templates. END
<njw> I'll do that END
> Here's one that's just for you Sami:
> AI20.9	SM	End Oct 2001 Make official delivery of background model data
OPEN		structures to ISDC using their webpage tool


<njw> Done! (send the templates email to Sami) END
> Thanks NJW! How's this AI coming along Sami? END
<smaisala> I delivered new models yesterday. --> AI closed. END
> Great! The webpage was no problem then? END
<smaisala> Actually it wasn't Produits webpage. It was under ISDC link 'Submit a calibr'. END
> Good to hear it went okay. END
> NJW, have you completed this one with your new templates?
> AI20.6	ALL	End Nov 2001 To check that all instrument model files have
OPEN		all the necessary keywords filled


> END
> I'm not quite sure why this one's on `ALL' END
<njw> At least I've done an effort. The coming delivery will have a much better
<njw> 'filling degree' END
> So is this AI ongoing or closed, or still just OPEN? END
<njw> No, it should probably be only me - well and perhaps you CAO ;-) END
<njw> Closed, I'd say. We can reopen it if Nicolas complains END
> Next: how's it going with installing OSM sami?
> AI20.12 SM,CAO	Send PK and RR emails detailing specific problems with 
OPEN		installation of OSM in Helsinki


> END
> I've been fulfilling the AI by keeping in touch with Reiner, but I still 
> haven't managed to get OSM installed yet - missing path to necessary
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> system libraries, as usual. END
<smaisala> I haven't try to set up OSM yet. It's under work. If I have problems I'll take contact to Reiner and let you know all the problems. END
<peter> Hi, sorry for the delay 
<peter> A stone hit my windshield and I was at the repair station this morning.
> Hi Peter! We've got to AI 20.12. Nothing for you yet. END
<peter> So I have not missed much yet? END
> Not yet. Next:
> AI20.15 CAO,NJW	End Oct 2001 Get together with NL and make a list of test cases
OPEN		that will be needed for SV tests. Result: informal document
		to be circulated in IT and ISDC

> I sent an email to NJW and NL, but I've not heard anything from either of
> them. NL is especially silent these days: hardware problems grinding him
> down somewhat I think. END
> Hello - has this thing gone dead again???? END
<smaisala> Hello - Still alive END
<peter> I'm just waiting for you to continue ... END
> Well NJW - what did  you think - when will I hear from you and Niels? END
<njw> Caught in a Ferrara planning discussion END
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> Hi Stefan! How are you? I have to go very soon because Allan and Guilio are
> hankering to upgrade my machine. END
<larsson> Hi. Sorry for being so very late. My train was late by
<larsson> 1 hour this morning.... END
<njw> Carol Anne, I'll think about it in the week-end END
> Good stuff NJW! I think that just about concludes all the AIs that need
> discussing now. Is there AOB? I think we should all think of one question 
> each to ask Stefan about his progress since he struggled in to reach
<larsson> Maybe I should read the notes and send any comments and a 
> the meeting. Okay, here's my one: have you redelivered your components
<larsson> status report be mail. END
> that use the new spectral formats? END
<larsson> To CA: No, but it's a matter of days. END
> Anyone else with any other business? END
<peter> To Stefan: if I get them next week they will still be integrated for the validation.
<njw> Q to Stefan: did you read my summary of the RMF discussions ? END
<peter> After that it gets difficult. END
<peter> To NJW: can we get example RMF and ARF files? END
<njw> Haven't you got them already? But I can send them again END
<larsson> To Peter: You should get them next week. END
<peter> Wait, the ones we used for the proposals? Are there no changes after our discussions?
<peter> I'd assume that we at least need a version with IC keywords. And I think we do have a formal template for these. END
<peter> To Stefan: thanks, that would help. END
<njw> Oh, it is a question of keywords. Alright, I'll resend with IC keywords END
<larsson> To NJW: Yes. I intended to send you a reply this morning, but I have
<larsson> no objections. END
<njw> Good, I'll send it round then END
<peter> Are there news on the hardwrare front? END
> FM2 had a problem with a reversed component that's been fixed by our
<njw> The best news is that FM2 is coming along fine after some resistor problem that
> electronic shop. That's all I know. END
<njw> has been cured. END
> If that's all I really have to go now - the sysadmins are circling me like
> two vultures that went without breakfast this morning. The good news is
<larsson> Another comment from here is that following NJs instructions
> that I'm getting the machine that will be used exclusively for integral and
> jemx! END
<larsson> I now have the simulation software running in Stockholm. END
<peter> Good news on both sides! END
<peter> Say hello to Allan. END
> Good, SL: you'll upt that in the monthly report PEter - I've just sent you 
> my contribution. END
<njw> Great, Stefan END
<larsson> Thanks for the instructions NJ! END
<njw> Welcome END
> We will be having a chat meeting same time next week: it's clear that AIs
<peter> Oh yes - I still need MR inputs from Stefan and Niels Jrgen! END
> get done at rate directly proportional to the number of chats held. END
<larsson> OK Peter. Before lunch... END
<njw> I've already sent you some input (delivery of j_ima_cor_intensity) END
> If winter travel schedules are too difficult to allow 9.30 meetings in
> the coming months (esp. in the frozen wastelands of the North.....just kidding)
> perhaps we should  move the chat time a little later. END
<peter> Normally the time is fine. Today was obviously a funny day. END
<larsson> Maybe by half an hour yes. And I am not kidding! END
> I'm thinking mostly of Sami and Stefan - we can't take into acount your
<peter> Well, maybe Sami would prefer to have it later - but it should stay in the morning. END
> bouts or random destructiveness,Peter! END
<peter> Wait until I get to Copenhagen in December .... END
> Okay, what about 10.30 Danish Whatever Time, and aim to ALWAYS be finished
<njw> Fine with me END
<peter> OK
> no later than 12.00 DWT, unless otherwise stated for special reasons. END
<smaisala> OK END
<larsson> OK. END
> Okay, next meeting 10.30 Thursday Nov. 8th - no delays - no excuses END
> Any more AOB? END
<njw> N
<smaisala> N
<peter> No
<larsson> N
<peter> Chat you next week. END
<njw> Bye everyone END
<smaisala> Ok bye END
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> Have a good weekend all of you - I've got a new kitchen to revel in! END
<larsson> YES. Bye. 
