
	SDAST weekly chat meeting # 50: Thursday 25th October 2001
	
Participants: Peter Kretschmar, Niels Joergen Westergaard, Carol Anne Oxborrow,
	Stefan Larsson
	
Subjects discussed: AI list
		Ferrara Calibration data
		
Action Items:
	None


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<njw> Hi, good girl - already on END
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<peter> Good morning! END
<njw> Morning, Peter END
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<larsson> Hi down there! END
> Hi Everyone - especially Stefan-of-the-proposal! END
<larsson> They moved the deadline by 24h. END
> How's it going? END
> Let's give Sami 2 more minutes, then begin. END
> Good to hear you've got a bit more breathing space Stefan. Let's begin on 
> the AIs. END
> Looks like we've got quite a few that are supposed to be done by the end
> of this month - that's next week people! So here goes:
> AI18.15 NJW/NL	Oct 2001 Make sure that IT provides a list/table of HK 
OPEN			parameter limits for GTI determination

> So how's this going? OR are we having too much difficulty getting the IT
> to produce a working instrument? END
<njw> Not closed yet END
<peter> A preliminary list is fine - we just want to get a feeling for what it means for us. END
<njw> As is (not) the next one END
<njw> I'll try to have a small reunion with Niels on these END
> Okay, let's move on:
> AIRAND_1 PK	Oct 2001 Update figures 3.1, 3.2 and 3.3, and section on GTI
OPEN			determination for ADD7.0


> How about we change this deadline to mid Feb to fit in better with the
> planned release of ADD 7.0? ENd
<peter> That's just what I wanted to ask you. END
> Another one for NJW (lucky you!):
<njw> This is done and I'm dumping files to /r4/jemx/Ferrara_FM1_cal_fits if you are interested END
> AI19_6	NJW	Oct 2001 Make sure that names in -CRW data structure are the
OPEN		same as in the diagnostic dump data structure


> Good! END
> Next one for me:
> AI19_11	CAO	Oct 2001 Talk with IT about what derived HK parameters should
OPEN		be used for performance monitoring


> Also to be done by next week: I'll talk to NL and SB today, just to arrange
> a meeting. END
> Is this one still open? :
> AI19_17 NJW	Dec 2001 Provide SM with diffuse sky maps from which to make
OPEN		diffuse background models


<njw> No maps made yet - still open END
> Should we have a more realistic due date? END
> Okay, I'll assume Dec is  okay. Next:
> I010906_1 ALL	Oct. 2001 Look through ALL data structure templates released
OPEN		with RP3.0 and see whether there are missing templates,
		changes, corrections or updates to the templates, or templates
		that should be removed. All requests for changes to be emailed
		to Marc Turler, PK and CAO.
> Is anyone actually going to do this? END
<peter> I have some good intentions .... END
<njw> Same for me (now that you're installing RP3) END
> What about everyone else? END
<peter> But you probably need to send around email reminders ... END
> How about we move the due date back to mid Nov, so that once I've finally
<njw> Y
> got RP3.0 and isdcroot working, you'll take a look at the templates...END
> Next, are really important one:
> AI20.1	PK,SL	26/10/01 Redeliver all ISSW that needs to use the new spectral
OPEN		formats


> That due date is tomorrow! END
<peter> Won't be met for sure, but this is partially due to the absence of Marc Turler (military service). 
<peter> Mathias is trying to fill in, but he's extremely busy with the upcoming tests - I guess he's doing about 200% of his contractual time ... 
<peter> Conclusion: we should strive to do this as fast as possible, but the current delay is also ISDC's responsibility. 
> Okay, what about a realistic due date? ENd
<peter> Stefan, Niels Jrgen - I assume the response questions are resolved? END
<peter> From my POV, Nov 2 should do. For once a week without large meetings ... END
<njw> Yes I think so END
> Other date suggestions? END
<peter> Stefan? What about you? END
<larsson> Agree. END
> I've put November 2nd. End
> Next:
> AI20.2	ALL	26/10/01 Redeliver all ISSW that should use new HK column names
OPEN		ISDC must come up with final suggestions for column names pretty
		soon for this deadline to be met
		

> Okay, I've done this one with the new (old!) column names: is Sami the only
> one to have things to deliver? END
> Peter do you know if he's delivered? END
<peter> Since he did not change he has no problem in that respect. END
> So this one's closed. END
> Okay, next one for October:
> AI20.9	SM	End Oct 2001 Make official delivery of background model data
OPEN		structures to ISDC using their webpage tool


> Has this been done, Peter? END
<peter> Not that I would know of. END
> I'll send Sami a reminder on this one. END
> Next:
> AI20.10	PK	ASAP Circulate email to SDAST about unit testing and system
OPEN		environment


> I think this one's closed, isn't it Peter? END
<peter> Probably yes, though I wanted to write another one - leave it open for the moment and I'll close it very soon. END
> AI20.12 SM	Send PK and RR emails detailing specific problems with 
OPEN		installation of OSM in Helsinki


> I suggest extending this one to me since I'll be trying to install OSM 
> some time this week, once I've got isdcroot going - nothing as much fun
> as pushing your luck! END
> next: 
> AI20.13 NJW,CAO	End Oct 2001 Assess priority of j-ical tools for a) payload
OPEN		calibrations b) during operations c) dream tools, V4


> NJW, do you approve the second email I sent you on this subject, the one
> with position determination put in second place? If so I'll send it to
> Peter as our official prioritisation of these tools. END
<njw> Yes it was OK END
> Okay, this one'll be closed today. END
> Next:
> AI20.15 CAO,NJW	End Oct 2001 Get together with NL and make a list of test cases
OPEN		that will be needed for SV tests. Result: informal document
		to be circulated in IT and ISDC

> I'm still waiting for feedback from NJW and NL on the email I sent them 
> last week. (Good week for emails, last week). END
<njw> I have to give it a closer look END
> It was VERY preliminary, but a start. END
> For the last one this year,
> AI20.16 CAO	Nov 2001 Install RP, scripts, software etc. needed for SV tests
OPEN


> Will SV tests be done with RP3.0? Because I'm doing all that this week. END
> Will we need OPUS? Which scripts should I use? The ones that are already
> delivered, or something you're still developping? END
<peter> You will not need OPUS. Just my scripts.
> Which versions of your scripts? END
<peter> But I plan to have one more update of these scripts by mid November, simplifying the interface and correcting a few issues Tess found. END
> Okay, I'll do everything else and wait for the scripts. 
<peter> In principle you should be able to work with version 2.0.0, though END
> That's all with the AI's. AOB anyone? END
<njw> N
<peter> Niels Jrgen: could you send us CDs with the Ferrara FITS files? END
> If there's no Other Business, we'd better all get back to our REAL work (we
> all know that meetings aren't `real' work!) END
<njw> Do you prefer CDs for ftp transfer?
> CDs or ftp transfer? END
<peter> Yes, if it's not too much trouble for you. This way I already have a backup. END
<njw> Alright, I'll do that in a few days. END
<peter> That's fine. Thanks. I'm not in a real hurry. END
<peter> Stefan: good luck with your proposals! END
<larsson> Thanks! END
> Yes - good luck - let's hope you make the deadline! ENd
<njw> Bye everyone END
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<peter> Goodbye then. END
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> Bye everyone! END
