


        WEEKLY CHAT MEETING #44: Thursday 22nd Febuary 2001

 PARTICIPANTS: Peter Kreschmar, Stefan Larsson, Sami Maisala, Niels Joergen
 	Westergaard, Carol Anne Oxborrow
 AGENDA
 
1) AI list
2) ADD contributions (or lack of them)
3) Status for V2 consolidation
4) Status for V3 detailed design
5) AOB

ACTION ITEMS None
 
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<peter> Good morning Carol Anne!
> Hi Peter, how's things with you - and Baerbel? END
<peter> We have both problems with administrations
<peter> But that's a story better told in person.
<peter> I hope it is all settled early next month. 
> I'll wait till the consortium meeting for the full story. END
<peter> Yes, I'll tell you then. END
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<njw> Good Morning END
<peter> Morning END
> I'll ring Sami -  Allan's at a committee meeting, so if Sami's not in, 
> we'll begin without him. END
<larsson> Gooood Moorning SDAST! END
> Sami's coming - as usual he's having trouble logging on to IRC, so we'll
> wait a couple minutes more. END
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<smaisala> Hi all ! END
> Great to see you Sami! LEt's get started. First, AI list - I hope you've all 
> got a copy of said list in front of you - we won't go through it point by
> point, but has anyone closed any AI's on them? END
<peter> Doesn't really seem so
> Remember, ALL AIs related to the ADD are due to be closed tomorrow at 9.00 ! END
> Well, that brings us neatly on to ADD contributions. I'll be checking out
<peter> What about the action on me and Sami to circulate .tex and .txt files. Did I do this? Sorry, I can not remember at all. END
> the entire ADD repository to compile the v6.0 document on monday at 9.00
<peter> If not, I would do it immediately ... END
<smaisala> I think we haven't done that. END
> and there's no excuses - what's in the on monday is what get's published! END
> No Peter, I don't remember you and Sami sending round your files. END
> It would be nice if you could do this so that people could see how you did
> the *.tex files before we have to deliver our final contributions. END
<peter> I agree with having a version on Monday, but that then has to be carefully read and we will surely edit it still.
<peter> Sorry, but if for no other reason, the current parallelization discussion here at ISDC does change my descriptions. 
> That's what I'll be spending there rest of the week doing END
<peter> Amd I'm not sure, I will have all digested and written down by Monday 9:00. END
> There will always be changes - we've put off the deadline SO MANY TIMES now
> for precisely this sort of reason - if you're not quite ready by Monday
> morning, then you'll just have to wait for 6.1, or slip it in during final
> corrections on Wednesday/Thursday, though these corrections are supposed to
> be very small. END
<peter> OK, let's put it like this. All executable descriptions should be in their final form on Monday morning.
<peter> For the scripts changes are more likely. END
<peter> NOTE to all: please remember to include the interface changes we agreed on! END
> This is the first time the scripts appear in the ADD - so it's only to be
> expected that they may need time to  settle down a bit first. Thanks for
> the email Peter - that covers your part of the AI nicely. END
<peter> I'll still try to get it right as well as I can. END
> Any more comments on ADD? END
<larsson> No. END
<peter> No END
<smaisala> One question: CAO would you circulate one of your tex files so I can check the history part? 
<njw> N
> Sure, Sami, I'll send you one now END
<smaisala> To Peter: You are still using 'IBG' in your j_bin_spectra.tex file or  is it old version? END 
<peter> It's still the old version. END
> Tex file sent to all SDAST - read and `enjoy' END
<peter> Sorry about that END
> Okay, next agenda point: V2 consolidation - has anything been consolidated?
> END
<peter> I am waiting for updated executable deliveries by probably all of you - would need to check. END
> I've been bogged down in q_identify_srcs - the component from Hell - even now
> I can't seem to deliver it with all matching version numbers ! So consolidation
> happens immediately after ADD publication. what about the rest of you?
<larsson> I will give you a better status update next thursday. I will work on
> Has Nicolas Produit produced consolidation versions of the j_prp******
> executables? END
<larsson> my executables up until then. After that I will be in italy and
<peter> Actually the rule is very simple: The version you give on the delivery form MUST be identical to version the program returns when called with --v.
<larsson> go from there to our meeting in Geneva. END
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<peter> So if you forgot (like I tend to, also) to updatte the version number, you redeliver the _same_ version with changed code.
<peter> END
<peter> NP should have redelivered new code by now, he had to wait for DAL3JEMX to be re-re-delivered. END
> Yes, it's that darned *.h file that I don't have to change in any other way
> but for the version number string. Drives me nuts! END
> Okay, so let's move on: V3 DD. Are we DD'ing? Or are we waiting till the end
> of consolidation for V3? END
<peter> Sami? Others? END
> Okay, so no news on V3. Let's move along:AOB. I'd like to have all inputs
> for the Febuary  monthly report by the middle of next week: what have you
> guys been DOING????? Installing 2.1? Reporting bugs to ISDC? Delivering
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> updates? There must be something a little report-worthy in there somewhere END
<njw> I'll tell you later END
> Anyone else with something to report? Anyone else awake out there? END
<peter> I'll write you something early next week. EDN
> Thanks for your contributions Peter and NJW - what about a little something
<larsson> I will send you an email next week CA. END
> from the windswept tundra for a change Stefan and Sami? END
> Good - I'm waiting for your contributions. Any more AOB? END
<smaisala> CAO: would you send me that repository instructions email again? END
> Are you seriously telling me you haven't got the hang of the CVS yet?
> I don't have the instructions anymore - I wiped them out a month ago - does
> anyone else have a copy of the CVS repository instructions they can send
> to Sami? END
<larsson> Yes. END
<peter> I should still have them somewhere. END
<larsson> Just sent it. END
> Thanks Stefan END\
<smaisala> Oh Thank You. This is so embarrssing to confess I haven't use CVS yet :( END
> NOT AT ALL???????? END
<smaisala> YEP. END
> Unforturnately, I won't be heere the rest of today and tomorrow because I'm
> on a course - so if you have problems, could you ask Stefan or one of the
> others? END
<smaisala> I think I can handle the situation now when I have the instructions.
<larsson> I'll be around until lunch tomorrow. END
> Any more AOB? END
<njw> To CAO: a specific question on the ADD: Is an executable
<njw> a subcomponent or subsubcomponent ? There seems to be a discrepancy
* njw between Peter's and my use here ? END
> As I remember it the application pipelines (e.g. j_data_preparation) are
> components, the scripts or executables that make up the application pipeline
> scripts are subcomponents, and anything that comes after that is a
> subsubcomponent. Originally we had lots of nested scripts, but now for
> most applications its: script(component) made up  of executables (subcomponents).
> I'll go through and check for this sort of thing once the document's compiled.
> END
<njw> thanks END
> Any more AOB? END
<larsson> No from the cold north. END
<smaisala> N
<peter> No. Go and send me your updated executables!!! END
> Okay - we'll chat next week - probably to give you all a list of final
<smaisala> P.S. It is cold here. Temperature is now -14 degrees END
<peter> About +5 here :-) END
> corrections for your ADD input. Don't get too cold up there in the frozen
> North. We're preparing for snow here over the weekend - so there should be
> some sledding in the part on Sunday. Have a good weekend everyone! END
